Skirtcraft - New Photos and Survey

General discussion of skirt and kilt-based fashion for men, and stuff that goes with skirts and kilts.
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I'd have to say "B" - it just looks better. :mrgreen:
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finrod wrote:However, a lot of how a skirt looks is in how it drapes, and a skirt of heavy fabric has some tendency to bend around vertical seams as it hangs. So B, with the two vertical seams here, has a little of that going on and it can create a sort of boxy effect. I'm not sure yet how much of an issue it would be in the long run though - after washings, and if it were stored so that it wasn't folded on these lives. With A, there is one vertical seam on the side, but the patch pocket can be attached in such a way that it redistributes the tension to the edges. It ends up balancing out and having an even drape.
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The best way to resolve those questions is to make a few and try them...

...How about I send you my measurements and you make a "Model B" for me? I can test it and provide some transatlantic feedback; I won't even charge for my services :)

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The other thing that significantly impacts on the drape of a skirt is the fabric. Make a "B" from stiff denim and it will look probably like a lampshade; use a material with a little more inherent flexibility and it will behave quite differently.

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I could go with either one, but the belt loops are a big plus. It's a fine looking garment!
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Based on comments received here and elsewhere, as well as further consideration, Option B is the winner. Thanks very much for the feedback!

Here are some updates on the project that were recently posted to the Skirtcraft email list, not all of which has already been shared here:

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1. We've altered the design, creating side panels that incorporate the upper and lower pockets. The changes have delayed the project by a few weeks, but it's important to take the time to create the best product we can. Reasons for the change:
  • Fit the lower pocket into its surroundings better.
  • Strengthen the lower pocket by integrating it into the primary seams rather than making it a patch pocket.
  • Prevent the lower pocket from straddling a seam, which led to creasing.
2. Clothier Design Source (http://clothierdesignsource.com), the firm assisting us with product development, has converted the pattern to digital form. They've sewn a prototype based on that, and are currently working on a second round of pattern/prototype based on our feedback. We are optimistic that this round will result in the final pattern version. Once the pattern is finished, a tech pack will be created containing complete specifications for manufacture, a manufacturer will be selected, and the crowdfunding campaign can begin!

3. The second, longer skirt design we mentioned previously has been completed during down time. We are not proceeding with development of the long skirt for now, but if our shorter skirt is successful, here's a gallery of what our second product might look like: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set ... 4788927644.
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The long version looks fine in the photos because of the simple straight outline, but what would it look like when the lines were twisted with stuff in the pockets?
I think the usefulness of pockets might be outweighed by esthetic considerations.
Would perhaps not be as ugly as tight trousers with full pockets plus knee and butt bulges.

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I haven't read through all the replies on this thread so I hope I'm not duplicating anything, but I tend to agree with those who aren't thrilled with the diagonal seam, but as others have said, that's just me. Personally I'd like to see it pleated all around with straight seams. I think the a-line look is perfect though. In any case, it's a very nice garment, thank you!
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It seems Finrod has been too busy working on this project to remember us; he has not posted his latest project update here. However, the update can be found on the Skirtcraft website here. It seems this is progressing well.

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I'm still not sure about the zip. Is it pracital when nature calls?
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renesm1 wrote:I'm still not sure about the zip. Is it practical when nature calls?
Firstly, I have a similar zip arrangement on one of my skirts and it is entirely practical although it feels a little strange when fastening or unfastening it at first.

Secondly, does anyone use the zip on a knee-length or shorter skirt when they need to drain the system? Lifting the hem seems a far quicker and easier solution.

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Milfmog wrote:,..Secondly, does anyone use the zip on a knee-length or shorter skirt when they need to drain the system? Lifting the hem seems a far quicker and easier solution...
Personally, I'm a hem-lifter, even at urinals in public washrooms.
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Caultron wrote:
Milfmog wrote:,..Secondly, does anyone use the zip on a knee-length or shorter skirt when they need to drain the system? Lifting the hem seems a far quicker and easier solution...
Personally, I'm a hem-lifter, even at urinals in public washrooms.
Me too, though I think it causes some startled looks when another guy comes in behind you. I noticed this in a washroom at a gas stop that had the weirdest décor, a full length mirror on the side wall, that ran all the way to the wall with the urinals on it. And no divider on the mirror side, so it gave another viewpoint that was close to having another urinal alongside.
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partlyscot wrote:...a washroom at a gas stop that had the weirdest décor, a full length mirror on the side wall, that ran all the way to the wall with the urinals on it. And no divider on the mirror side, so it gave another viewpoint that was close to having another urinal alongside.
That's pretty weird, all right. I suppose the mirror was a standard size and that's how big the wall was but it's still weird. Hate to think the owner might be a voyeur, eh?
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partlyscot wrote:
Caultron wrote:Personally, I'm a hem-lifter, even at urinals in public washrooms.
Me too, though I think it causes some startled looks when another guy comes in behind you...
Yes, it does but oh well. If I were a woman, I wouldn't be standing at the urinal.
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I haven't forgotten; in fact I check in here pretty often even though I don't comment frequently. :-)

My understanding is that excessive product promotion on the board is frowned upon, understandably, so I haven't posted detailed updates here. I figure people wanting those can subscribe to the email list or follow on the social media accounts (all accessible via http://skirtcraft.com).

I definitely will share here once the crowdfunding campaign is live and the skirts are actually available.

Using the fly when nature calls certainly isn't necessary, but the zipper helps to get the skirt over your hips when getting dressed. Locating it in front makes it handy, and perhaps more familiar for men used to trousers. And, it provides an alternative to hem lifting for those who prefer (in general, or just when wanting to avoid attention for whatever reason). Those are some of the thoughts behind it, anyway.
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I definitely like the zip front. It might have no practical function except for opening and closing the skirt, but so what? It’s the way we are used to close our jeans, shorts etc. To me a zipper at the sides or the back is feminine, and a closed skirt is to me only acceptable when it is closed on the front.
And what about woman’s jeans and skirts? For females the zipper is only for opening and closing them, wherever it is placed, on the front, at the back ode at the sides.

I certainly also like the over all design of the Skirt Craft skirt.
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