Mens health

Jerseyman · Post by **Jerseyman** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:13 pm

I found this on line if its a repost let me know.I know If more doctors came out and said that skirts or kilts were healthyer for men to wear and also helped with sexual disfunction.

you would see more men wearing them.anyway heres the link.Its a long but good read http://www.imff.net/articles/presscuttings.pdf

Departed Member · Post by **Departed Member** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:08 pm

Some interesting points there! There always seems to be some disparity over 'evidence' to support/contradict the view that tight underwear/trousers is/are harmful to one's health (& I include womenfolk here). I've noticed over the past few years that Australians seem to dismiss the notion, in the USA fairly even, yet here in the UK, the feedback I'm getting from the medical profession (& that's from GPs, Urologists & Pathologists!) is that there appears to be a link. Although death certificates tend to only record the primary cause of death, the incidence of other (say, prostate) cancers present is actually on the increase. No-one will say anything publically, however, as it wouldn't be PC! (You cannot stop women wearing trousers & you cannot make blokes wear skirts - whether it would improve their health, or nay!).

Charlie · Post by **Charlie** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:06 pm

If someone wants to do a clinical trial to prove that wearing a skirt is beneficial to men's health, I'll volunteer to be a long-time skirt wearer

Charlie

Overtahill · Post by **Overtahill** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:29 pm

The problem with the "Health" argument is that apart from a very few skirters and kilters, all men wear trousers, and do not suffer health or reproductive problems.

Cheers,
Rick

Topsy · Post by **Topsy** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:32 am

Overtahill wrote:The problem with the "Health" argument is that apart from a very few skirters and kilters, all men wear trousers, and do not suffer health or reproductive problems.

The problem with this argument is that detailed medical records of men's reproductive problems have been kept for only just over 1 century during which time all men in the western world were expected to wear trousers. Therefore there is no comparitive data for men who don't wear trousers. That is why Charlie has offered his services

The biggest unanswered question in mens helth is why sperm rates have fallen consistently over the last 50 years. Whilst several environmental reasons have been touted, there is no authoritive answer - yet.

Departed Member · Post by **Departed Member** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:09 am

Overtahill wrote:The problem with the "Health" argument is that apart from a very few skirters and kilters, all men wear trousers, and do not suffer health or reproductive problems. Cheers, Rick

That's not what the medics say. I've twice been (medically) advised to wear a skirt/Kilt to alleviate (the effects of) medical problems 'below the waist', at least to assist recovery.

Comparative figures from around the world show that genital cancers amongst the inhabitants of India (high % of skirt-wearers) is markedly lower than in the UK. Even figures from Scotland show a massive increase in the last thirty or so years. Is it a co-incidence that Kilt-wearing (esp. daily), decreased dramatically over this period? Apart from Weddings, Football & Highland Games (costume, rather than 'lifestyle') & 'professionals' (tour guides, etc.), Kilts are (sadly) no longer de rigeur in Scotland. You'll see far more (weekday) Kilts, south of the border, in fact.

kiltguy · Post by **kiltguy** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:58 am

merlin wrote:That's not what the medics say. I've twice been (medically) advised to wear a skirt/Kilt to alleviate (the effects of) medical problems 'below the waist', at least to assist recovery.

Hi,

Simply because you were advised to wear a skirt/kilt to alleviate "problems below the waist" doesn't indicate that not wearing a skirt/kilt was the cause of such "problems".

"Comparative figures from around the world show that genital cancers amongst the inhabitants of India (high % of skirt-wearers) is markedly lower than in the UK. Even figures from Scotland show a massive increase in the last thirty or so years. Is it a co-incidence that Kilt-wearing (esp. daily), decreased dramatically over this period? Apart from Weddings, Football & Highland Games (costume, rather than 'lifestyle') & 'professionals' (tour guides, etc.), Kilts are (sadly) no longer de rigeur in Scotland. You'll see far more (weekday) Kilts, south of the border, in fact.

In addition to the decline of kilt wearing in Scotland, one should also take into consideration environmental, dietary and other lifestyle changes that have occured during that same period and which may be contributing factors.

kg

Overtahill · Post by **Overtahill** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:01 am

Topsy wrote:The problem with this argument is that detailed medical records of men's reproductive problems have been kept for only just over 1 century during which time all men in the western world were expected to wear trousers. Therefore there is no comparitive data for men who don't wear trousers. That is why Charlie has offered his services

The biggest unanswered question in mens helth is why sperm rates have fallen consistently over the last 50 years. Whilst several environmental reasons have been touted, there is no authoritive answer - yet.

Greetings Topsy
You make a good observation.
While I am not up on sperm rates falling, there does not appear to be a shortage of newborns. In fact, there is a huge industry whose sole purpose is to terminate unwanted pregnancy. My point is, I don't think the medical industry is worried about falling birthrates.

Cheers,
Rick

Overtahill · Post by **Overtahill** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:12 am

Greetings Merlin

merlin wrote:That's not what the medics say. I've twice been (medically) advised to wear a skirt/Kilt to alleviate (the effects of) medical problems 'below the waist', at least to assist recovery. Was that suggestion prompted by you? Or was it a "comfort issue" that could have been solved by wearing loose sweat pants? Just curious.

Comparative figures from around the world show that genital cancers amongst the inhabitants of India (high % of skirt-wearers) is markedly lower than in the UK. Even figures from Scotland show a massive increase in the last thirty or so years. Is it a co-incidence that Kilt-wearing (esp. daily), decreased dramatically over this period? Apart from Weddings, Football & Highland Games (costume, rather than 'lifestyle') & 'professionals' (tour guides, etc.), Kilts are (sadly) no longer de rigeur in Scotland. You'll see far more (weekday) Kilts, south of the border, in fact.

While I understand your point, it is not a slam-dunk argument. There could be many contributing factors including diet, lifestyle, work related factors, etc. which can contribute to genital cancer.

Cheers,
Rick

Departed Member · Post by **Departed Member** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:34 pm

"Was that suggestion prompted by you? Or was it a "comfort issue" that could have been solved by wearing loose sweat pants? Just curious."

No! I was somewhat taken by surprise on both occasions, especially as 'shorts' would have been the more 'gender-logical' solution in one case (knee, shin & foot injury). That was from the Practice Nurse.

"While I understand your point, it is not a slam-dunk argument. There could be many contributing factors including diet, lifestyle, work related factors, etc. which can contribute to genital cancer."

Well, the Scots have oft been slated for having the worst diet of any in the UK for years viz., highest rate of heart attacks per head of population. With the growth of 'pizza' eating in England, in particular, I would expect the rest of the UK to 'catch up' with (& probably outstrip) Scotland in this respect, within a decade. My (female) doctor's 'thesis' runs along the lines of, "If you want to guarantee contracting cancer or having a heart attack, eat plenty of pizzas, smoke twenty a day and wear tight trousers!" I laughed when I first heard that (doing none of those things, myself!), but have since heard such (similar) sentiments from other members of the profession. Certainly, most of our friends/colleagues (of similar age) who believed in the 'right to smoke', did so, and consequently are no longer with us, but that's another issue.........

Overtahill · Post by **Overtahill** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:04 pm

Well Merlin, the more support the better. I look forward to the day when people ask... "What's with the pants? Don't you know they are carcenogenic?"

Cheers,
Rick

Departed Member · Post by **Departed Member** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:22 pm

I like it, Rick, I like it!

For now, "Poly Ester" & "Tere Lene" still remain "Enemy Nos 1 & 2"! :shoot:

Stu · Post by **Stu** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 2:56 pm

My eldest daughter, Kaz, has tried to register on here but was unsuccessful - I think due to a problem with her email account (GRR!).

Anyway, she's a medical student, just starting her fourth year, and she tells me that from her kowledge, there are many sound health reasons for men to wear anything but trousers. The male crotch area benefits from being kept cool and aerated. This improves sperm count, hygeine and there is some evidence to suggest it could have some effect on reducing the instances of certain infections and even testicular cancer.

Anyway, I've stolen her thunder (sorry, Kaz), but no doubt she'll post here as soon as she gets her email sorted.

Stu

Skirt Chaser · Post by **Skirt Chaser** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:40 am

Stu wrote:Anyway, I've stolen her thunder (sorry, Kaz), but no doubt she'll post here as soon as she gets her email sorted.

I hope we do get to know your Kaz here, Stu.

As for the medical issue, it really shouldn't matter why a guy wants to wear a skirt, he should have that choice. It doesn't need to be justified by an 'acceptable' answer like fertility or cancer.

Quiet Mouse

Departed Member · Post by **Departed Member** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:56 am

Whoa! This medical advice referred equally to women as much as men! It is not an attempt to register an 'excuse' for men to wear a skirt! 'Downstairs' cancers (etc.) affect both sexes. Although women's cancers currently dominate medical attention, I am told there is a noticeable increase over the past few years, and this despite a much lower level of smoking (ironically, the only increase is amongst young females - it's so macho - not!), and much better dietary advice in women's magazines. And agreed, wired bras allegedly cause related health problems, but let's not go there on this issue...........