skirts for men and kilts presented at Paris fashion week

[AntoineParis]

What do you think of those skirts for men and kilts
http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... r-homme%2F

http://hommeurbain.com/2011/01/31/fashi ... our-homme/

[crggrg]

The problem with this is that they are all wearing trousers underneath the skirts and I believe that most people on this forum enjoy wearing skirts as an alternative to trousers, not with them.

Craig

[Kirbstone]

Well put. I have no use for the look of that sort of 'fashion' and the feel would be totally neutral as well, I assume.

[Uncle Al]

I thought one of the pics had the model wearing leggings of some sort.
Could be wrong. Some of the outfits were quite good - others, well....
you know

Uncle Al

[r.m.anderson]

OK -

Wearing hosiery with a skirt is a given - in foul weather or to compliment fashion.

"BUT" wearing p@nts or leggings is the "ANTI-THESIS" of this fashion.

Wear one or the other "BUT" not both !

The jerks who promote this effect on the fashion runway are not helping the Men in Skirts
movement and they are not helping sell their skirted wear for the future.
Even women know enough to stay away from this faux pas.

rm

[Uncle Al]

This outfit - - - -



has potential. I would lose the leggings/tight tr***ers and go for opaque
tights. The over-all look, to me, HAS IT A great professional outfit.

This look is not the best, but is an improvement over many of the other
runway faux-pax - - - -


At least that's my opinion, your mileage may vary.....

Uncle Al

[Gmerc]

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[Milfmog]

Personally I hate the skirt over trousers (or baggy leggings) look. However, I do think that there may be some merit in it; if it persuades guys who'd not consider a skirt to try something different, that would at least widen the range of "acceptable" menswear. Some of the looks pictured are not bad once the silly legwear is removed, at least they look credible and could form the basis of a wearable ensemble. Of course, if people buy into this look for a season or two when they get bored with it, they will already have a skirt in the wardrobe...

As has been said before: softly, softly, catchee monkey.

Have fun,


Ian.

[crfriend]

Like many here, I too detest the look of a skirt over trousers; my opinion on the matter is that both elements are OK individually, but combined they look juvenile. One or the other, please, but not both simultaneously.

Some of styles look workable with some modification -- and recall that it's the modification to the look that makes it our own rather than somebody else's.

The original poster also was nice enough to include a link back to here on his page. (I wish my French was better.)

[Stu]

I like wearing trousers - most of the time. I like having the option of a skirt/kilt/sarong - for some of the time. I see absolutely no practical point in wearing both at the same time.

In my view, the only ways in which skirts can enter the mainstream are either as alternatives to shorts in warm weather, or else as variants of the kilt. The shorts alternative could be a sarong or a denim/canvas skirt or a plain, wraparound. We have already seen the variants of the kilt with garments like those offered by Utilikilts etc, except these tend to be prohibitively expensive.

I think it is utterly unrealistic to offer men either a skirt and trousers option or a skirt and tights option and imagine these looks are going to go mainstream. Men are not going to wear a a skirt with trousers because the skirt is then redundant, and they are not going to wear a skirt and tights any time soon because that is far too big a leap into the realm of the feminine (which is why I don't wear tights). If male skirts are to become mainstream, it will be incrementally - one step at a time.

Stu

[Milfmog]

I like wearing trousers - most of the time. I like having the option of a skirt/kilt/sarong - for some of the time. I see absolutely no practical point in wearing both at the same time.

In my view, the only ways in which skirts can enter the mainstream are either as alternatives to shorts in warm weather, or else as variants of the kilt. The shorts alternative could be a sarong or a denim/canvas skirt or a plain, wraparound.

Wearing my practical head, I tend towards agreeing with this. However, when I remember that much of the population is more concerned with style than with practical matters I start to wonder. For example, there is absolutely no sense in wearing a pair of jeans with the beltline below the buttocks and having to pull them up every third pace, but that has not stopped huge numbers of youngsters adopting that as a fashion statement.

My practical head wants to agree with this paragraph...

I think it is utterly unrealistic to offer men either a skirt and trousers option or a skirt and tights option and imagine these looks are going to go mainstream. Men are not going to wear a a skirt with trousers because the skirt is then redundant, and they are not going to wear a skirt and tights any time soon because that is far too big a leap into the realm of the feminine (which is why I don't wear tights). If male skirts are to become mainstream, it will be incrementally - one step at a time.

...however my other head (I'm starting to feel like Zaphod Beeblebrox) says "remember the kids in jeans; maybe they are just smart / dumb enough (you choose) to buy into skirts over trousers, even if it is only to annoy the oldies on the far side of the generation gap". So while I agree that "If male skirts are to become mainstream, it will be incrementally - one step at a time", I hope that maybe, just maybe, this may be an alternative incremental step to getting skirts into mens wardrobes.

Have fun,


Ian.

PS: Good to see you posting a little more often Stu.

[straightfairy]

...however my other head (I'm starting to feel like Zaphod Beeblebrox) says "remember the kids in jeans; maybe they are just smart / dumb enough (you choose) to buy into skirts over trousers, even if it is only to annoy the oldies on the far side of the generation gap". So while I agree that "If male skirts are to become mainstream, it will be incrementally - one step at a time", I hope that maybe, just maybe, this may be an alternative incremental step to getting skirts into mens wardrobes.

I'm thinking along these lines. If young-ish guys start to wear skirts over trousers as a fashion item, it shouldn't be THAT long before the braver ones simply choose to wear just the skirt, once people have got more used to boys and men wearing skirts. I may not like how they're presented on the catwalk, but then very little of any fashion on the catwalk remains unchanged before it hits the shops.

[JohnH]

Count me as one who cannot stand the look of skirts with trousers. I would rather be seen wearing a full bore dress with hose and heels or a standard man's outfit (coat, tie, and pants) than to wear one of those skirt-and-trouser outfits.
The way to get men to wear skirts it seems to me would be to have the looks not being so eccentric.

In the winter months I wear pants or maxi-dresses where the hem comes down almost to the ankle. Then I can stay warm wearing ordinary socks. If I wear a dress that is knee length I wear hose to keep warm.

The way to get men to wear skirts it seems to me would be to have the looks not being so eccentric. The top half could be a coat and tie look, and if one wanted to wear standard men's shoes, the skirt could be almost ankle length.

If the skirt is to be knee length I would have the coat shorter and hose on the legs. The shoes would need to have a lighter appearance than standard men's shoes - perhaps block heels.

In my opinion both outfits shown above would like much better with dark transparent or opaque hose and lighter looking shoes, perhaps heels.

I notice the models are wearing rather bright red lipstick. I would go for something less obvious that is closer to natural lip color.

It's time to lose the "masculine anxiety" in clothing style.

John

[trulyyours]

Changes is widely accepted fashion often occur very gradually. I recall women's transition from skirts only to pants didn't happen in one fell stroke. First there were culottes, then rather baggy legged pants (look at early Katherine Hepburn movies), then pants suits designed specifically for women, then the transition caught hold much faster until anything was acceptable.

I wonder if wide spread acceptance of men's skirts may be similar. Perhaps these designers with their tights and under-trousers are making the first step more acceptable until the "look" catches on - then the under-pants can slowly diminish. While most here agree the goal is skirts only, maybe getting there for general acceptance may take a little transition time. Just a thought.

[JohnH]

I honestly forgot about the culottes and then the baggy pants stages for women. I remember in high school culottes were forbidden on girls. So you might be onto something with the transition garments.

An extreme feminine appearance on Jean Paul Gaultier's fashion show for men was the appearance of Andrej Pejic wearing dresses. His looks are too feminine even for me to consider wearing.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/2 ... drej_Pejic

John