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General discussion of skirt and kilt-based fashion for men, and stuff that goes with skirts and kilts.
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Faldaguy wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 3:57 am I I grant women have had a life-time of putting together formula combinations that seem to work, but also have a knack for exploring outside the rules in ways that are quite remarkable and pleasant. I think we men simply need to do the same -- we don't have the same shape, dimensions, or many other factors to direct a "look" --- therefore, I find trying to emulate a woman's look/rule is both impractical and unwise. We are a "new" entity in skirts/dresses -- let's use it to fill our needs and set our own path.
Good points. Other than the Kilt Police, we will have to work out what works for MIS, because skirted rigs on men are a novelty.
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We may perhaps get some useful hints from, say, color theory, but this is very much an experimental phase.
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Faldaguy wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 3:57 am . . . we don't have the same shape, dimensions, or many other factors to direct a "look" . . .
The difference in the location of the waist seems crucial. I cannot find it now but there is/was a video on YouTube that recommended that men wear skirts high where a woman's waist would be. However, I find that uncomfortable and typically wear my skirts low, at my natural waist. One's preference in that respect will likely make a big difference in other choices. I wear a lot of pull-over shirts (turtle necks, cowl necks, t-shirts) that barely reach below the waistline of the skirt when worn low. So, for me, it often looks better to leave them un-tucked. Also, my work uniform is on the casual side. For a more formal look, I would probably tuck in my shirt more often. (In contrast, outside of work, I had some tunic-length turtleneck shirts made specifically to cover my hips when I wear them over leggings. In that case, you might say that, in the strict sense of the term, I added a skirt to the shirt itself.)
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KeithWearsSkirts wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:28 pm
Faldaguy wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 3:57 am . . . we don't have the same shape, dimensions, or many other factors to direct a "look" . . .
The difference in the location of the waist seems crucial.

(In contrast, outside of work, I had some tunic-length turtleneck shirts made specifically to cover my hips when I wear them over leggings. In that case, you might say that, in the strict sense of the term, I added a skirt to the shirt itself.)
I'd say, you made a short dress! :)
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Yes, indeed. The main difference between my tunic-length turtlenecks and off-the-rack tunics (that I wear over pants at work) is that the material is much lighter and thinner in the shirts than in the off-the-rack tunics. I would wear the tunics without pants in warm weather outside of work, but I would not be comfortable wearing one of the tunic-length turtleneck shirts without leggings or pants underneath, nor were they designed to be worn that way. (The turtlenecks are from IVANEL on Etsy.com who happily accommodated my unusual length request and I am very happy with them.) When spring/summer weather comes, the turtlenecks get packed away with the rest of my fall/winter shirts.
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The issue with location of the waist isn’t one of finding it, but whether you have one. If you are overweight, the chances are that the excess is where your waist would be. If you are not overweight you should have a waist in it’s correct position and skirts will fit better.
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While driving home from a dental appointment I drove past Mens Wearhouse. This is a chain store that specializes in mens formal wear. Had never been in one, so I stopped to take a look.

For a clothing store its selection was not very big. The most notable thing was that, except for the ties, there was very little color in the garments on display. In fact, what was offered could almost be described as nondescript.

The second notable thing was a sign indicating that suits are available for rent.
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Last year in summer I visited Melbourne and was surprised at the lack of colour in what people's were wearing. I said it was very monochrome, but my daughter said they often call it "greige".

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I always wear my skirts with my shirt tucked in.
If I'm wearing trousers, my shirt is always tucked in as well.

I find that skirts offer an advantage over trousers for folks who prefer their shirts neatly tucked in. :)

In private, one can lift up the skirt and pull the shirt back down straight.
With trousers (again, in private) to do a decent job of straightening, tucking in the shirt, the waistband of the trousers needs to be undone.

Yes, I know that one can insert hands or just fingers into the waistband of trousers to tuck in a shirt but often the action of removing hands or fingers drags the shirt back out again!
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shadowfax wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 7:33 am I find that skirts offer an advantage over trousers for folks who prefer their shirts neatly tucked in. :)

In private, one can lift up the skirt and pull the shirt back down straight.
With trousers (again, in private) to do a decent job of straightening, tucking in the shirt, the waistband of the trousers needs to be undone.

Yes, I know that one can insert hands or just fingers into the waistband of trousers to tuck in a shirt but often the action of removing hands or fingers drags the shirt back out again!
:D I have found this to be particularly helpful as well, though I don't always wear shirts tucked in trousers or skirts.
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shadowfax wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 7:33 am In private, one can lift up the skirt and pull the shirt back down straight.
You do this too!! I thought it was just me...
Daily, a happy man in a skirt...
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I thought it was standard practice lest the top article tends to bunch up under & around the waist band making both top and bottom look askew. I often find my half-slip needs a little tug from underneath as well.
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Concept for redefining mens trouser suits, from Permanent Style. Articles regarding this listed:

The Logical Waistcoat Theory, Parts 1 and 2.
The Waistcoat as Jacket.

Instead of linking, I will summarize.

Suits were intended to both be formal and keep you warm. This warmth has become redundant in modern heated buildings. It may be cold outside, but indoors the jacket comes off. So one won't overheat. One might wander around the office with the suit's trousers, shirt and tie.

My own experience, when dragged to church as a child, was that the jacket did an excellent job of retaining heat during the hottest days of the year. But were very poor at retaining heat when there was snow on the ground. The bulk of the jacket was annoying when donning a winter coat over it.

In a business setting, the author suggested forgetting the jacket, and deeming the suit complete with shirt, waistcoat, and trousers.

Another version of a suit comes to mind:

1. Shirt

2. Waistcoat

3. Skirt
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Grok wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 5:52 pmAnother version of a suit comes to mind:

1. Shirt
2. Waistcoat
3. Skirt
That's precisely what I've been doing for 20+ save that I've ratcheted back a bit because of societal backlash. I don't need to be disappeared and deported from one 3rd World hole to another 3rd World hole simply because I "looked odd".

Worse is the recent trend towards setting the A/C to bone-chilling levels in the summer. I call this the "It's Cool to be Cold!" movement -- and one can't get away from it. Thus the extra layers -- including a coat become necessary in the warmer months (which needs to be doffed once outside). For instance, I have yet to find a place where I can go to get a beer and a meal that I don't shiver at -- where just outside the temperature could be a very comfortable 75 (F) or so, but indoors it's 60 to 65.
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