Fashion freedom

Post by **Milfmog** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:28 pm

AndrewH wrote:My rule of thumb for myself is that, if the skirt is laid flat, it should be longer than it is wide!

...and if I follow your rule, will you pay damages when I trip over the hem???

Have fun,

Ian.

Website · Post by **crfriend** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:22 pm

AndrewH wrote:My rule of thumb for myself is that, if the skirt is laid flat, it should be longer than it is wide!

About the shortest skirt I'm comfortable with forms just about a square when laid out flat. The one I was wearing yesterday is quite clearly a rectangle, with the length as the short dimension. (38" waist, 14" skirt) It even passes the "mini" test (my fingertips extend below the hem); however, to be perfectly honest, it's way too short to be modest in, but it does show off my legs....

I finally got a straight answer from my wife on it -- she admitted to being jealous of how good it looked. To be honest, it looks better on her; I told her so, too.

AndrewH wrote:Of course, those of you who are slender and younger may get away with a different rule!

At 38" 'round the middle, I'm not exactly skinny, but at 6'4" that makes up for it a little bit.

And what's this fascination with age? Younger is not necessarily better -- just different.

Don · Post by **Don** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:49 pm

Bravehearts.us wrote:Fashion freedom is one thing. A sense of fashion is a whole other matter. Sure you can throw on a bunch of “stuff” and go out the door looking like a clown. A guy could be getting a bunch of laughs that have nothing to do with the skirt he’s wearing. Best to find someone who can match up clothes before you make a statement you’ll regret. Just because it’s casual Friday doesn’t mean you have to traumatize the whole office.

And this, surely, is the essence of "skirtsmanship". It takes a lot of skill and panache not only to wear the skirt but PRESENT it as a legitimate, acceptable, and ATTRACTIVE men's garment!

And it involves some RISK, as well! Fail to use that skill, and you risk walking out the door looking TRULY stupid! Is this risk part of the attraction?

And an additional subject for debate... RESOLVED: Does "skirtsmanship" involve updating with prevailing notions of masculinity (whatever that is)???

ChristopherJ · Post by **ChristopherJ** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:50 pm

"Any man would look stupid in such a short skirt - no matter how old or young he was." http://tinyurl.com/yc2fpd
My sentiments exactly.

That seems to be an indirect way of saying that you think I look stupid.

If that is what you believe, then just say so. I won't be offended - as everyone is entitled to their own opinion - which I shall promptly ignore

binx · Post by **binx** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:02 pm

Looks more like a pair of black shorts to me....

binx

Sashi · Post by **Sashi** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:24 am

ChristopherJ wrote:I must say, it came a huge shock to me that such a thing as MICRO skirts even existed.

Wow, I still manage to learn something new every day. Those are some really short skirts there. Although browsing through the gallery gave me the idea of picking up a denim skirt or something one day and adding patches and other imagery to it. Hmm... if I can find some more denim bell bottoms I would probably do it to them as well. As it stands I only have one pair, and other than tattered bottoms (can't think of what you'd call the bottom of the legs) they are in quite good shape. Besides, tatters always look nice on denim :ninjajig:

Okay, I'm definitely rambling which tells me it's time to shut up and get to bed, so I'll leave it at that.

ChristopherJ · Post by **ChristopherJ** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:50 am

Looks more like a pair of black shorts to me....

Yeah - I know. It's really difficult to take a decent photograph of a short skirt because, as you say, it often looks just like boys shorts. Black is very difficult to photograph - very.

I took the photo myself with a timer on the camera. I need a lot more practice before I can get really good photographs. For example, posing for a phot is a lot more difficult than I ever realised. My natural stance is standing straight on to the camera with hands on hips. That's how most men stand. I try and change that a bit each time I take some photos of myself - but it's very difficult. I am beginning to get some respect for professional models - as it must be a very difficult job.

Bravehearts.us · Post by **Bravehearts.us** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:25 am

ChristopherJ wrote:That seems to be an indirect way of saying that you think I look stupid.

If that is what you believe, then just say so. I won't be offended - as everyone is entitled to their own opinion - which I shall promptly ignore

The link to your picture was from a post I was going to make about the leg warmers. I use to wear them all the time in the ‘80’s. They don’t fit anything you are wearing and they are out dated. The link wasn’t meant to be in the post about the short skirt on eBay. That was a cut and paste error…good reason to preview all posts. Sorry, I didn’t mean to imply you looked stupid. But I do think that those skirts on eBay do look ridiculous no matter who they’re on.

ChristopherJ · Post by **ChristopherJ** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:43 am

The link to your picture was from a post I was going to make about the leg warmers. I use to wear them all the time in the ‘80’s. They don’t fit anything you are wearing and they are out dated.

I know that leg warmers were all the rage back in the 1980's. I can remember it well. But you're wrong when you say they are out dated now - they are back in fashion with a bang. I've had several women ask me where I got those in the photo.

You heard it first here!

Website · Post by **crfriend** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:30 am

ChristopherJ wrote:I know that leg warmers were all the rage back in the 1980's.

I suspect that some of the comments on the mini-with-leg-warmers were based on the overall "first glance" at the rig in question. The "look" that the outfit suggests seems "bottom heavy" in that there's a lot of bulk towards the lower extremeties that throws the balance off. At least that's my take on it.

To my mind, an outfit should balance fairly well -- i.e. it should draw attention to neither the upper nor lower parts, but instead function as a complete unit. Women tend to draw attention to "points": be they legs, chest, or waist. Men don't have the same options; we need to balance things out so individual bits don't detract from the overall image. For instance, even though I love vests, I don't wear them with miniskirts because they throw the balance off; they make me look top-heavy. They're also incompatible with the very casual nature of a mini, although that assertion may be debateable. Similarly, I don't wear very "heavy" footgear for the same reason -- it throws the balance off.

Leg warmers, for what it's worth, are "dead as doornails" here in the US; I haven't seen so much as a singleintance in the past decade. So that may have been another source of comment.

Departed Member · Post by **Departed Member** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:10 am

crfriend wrote:I suspect that some of the comments on the mini-with-leg-warmers were based on the overall "first glance" at the rig in question. The "look" that the outfit suggests seems "bottom heavy" in that there's a lot of bulk towards the lower extremeties that throws the balance off. At least that's my take on it.

Leg warmers, for what it's worth, are "dead as doornails" here in the US; I haven't seen so much as a singleintance in the past decade. So that may have been another source of comment.

Agree with your opinion, wholeheartedly! Don't think I've ever seen them 'in the outside world'. Don't think I ever want to..................... :shake:

ChristopherJ · Post by **ChristopherJ** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 1:13 am

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I suspect that some of the comments on the mini-with-leg-warmers were based on the overall "first glance" at the rig in question. The "look" that the outfit suggests seems "bottom heavy" in that there's a lot of bulk towards the lower extremeties that throws the balance off. At least that's my take on it.

Yes - I agree with that as well. Thing was - at the time those photos were taken - I only had one pair of leg warmers, as the weather here in the UK had been very mild. It is now bloody freezing - and so I have bought 2 other pairs - ones that are less bulky and that don't look "bottom heavy".

I like both the look of leg warmers (decent ones) and their practicality for men in a skirt. I've got skinny legs and so unless I wear very high boots or high socks, my legs look awful in a skirt. Legwarmers are a great alternative to high socks etc.

Departed Member · Post by **Departed Member** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 1:50 am

Flippin' 'eck! We might just as well go back to Mr R Hood's day and wear a (reasonably long) tunic, with (reasonably long) leg-warmers!

Yup! They didnae wear tr*users in those days (my apologies to all modern day cr*p film-makers/retro-actors who'd like to think they did!), the only problem, no elastic or lycra, just, err, 'string' (OK, nit-pickers, twine!) to tie 'em up!

imadube · Post by **imadube** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 3:57 am

It is a shame I don't have the money and freedom, but I have some ideas to make skirts for men that in the market place would turn even the most sceptical people. Would love to start a line of clothing with man skirts in mind, but no cash nor am I a designer just ideas.
It is a real shame that all those people making man skirts are so traditional to be doing "kilted" clothing and not more modern skirts.

Krapsparov · Post by **Krapsparov** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 9:42 am

imadube wrote:It is a shame I don't have the money and freedom, but I have some ideas to make skirts for men that in the market place would turn even the most sceptical people. Would love to start a line of clothing with man skirts in mind, but no cash nor am I a designer just ideas.
It is a real shame that all those people making man skirts are so traditional to be doing "kilted" clothing and not more modern skirts.

A friend of mine own Midas clothing and he has some great designs for men in skirts and dresses.
He go's for an urban style approach, REALLY good

Jon

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