Fashion freedom

[Bravehearts.us]

Fashion freedom is one thing. A sense of fashion is a whole other matter. Sure you can throw on a bunch of “stuff” and go out the door looking like a clown. A guy could be getting a bunch of laughs that have nothing to do with the skirt he’s wearing. Best to find someone who can match up clothes before you make a statement you’ll regret. Just because it’s casual Friday doesn’t mean you have to traumatize the whole office.

[Krapsparov]

Fashion freedom is one thing. A sense of fashion is a whole other matter. Sure you can throw on a bunch of “stuff” and go out the door looking like a clown. A guy could be getting a bunch of laughs that have nothing to do with the skirt he’s wearing. Best to find someone who can match up clothes before you make a statement you’ll regret. Just because it’s casual Friday doesn’t mean you have to traumatize the whole office.

You make a good point, Lar!!
A few members on this site are the wrong side of 40, I put myself in this category. If I was to turn up at the office in a pink tutu, I would expect to have rocks thrown at me. However……
Offices NEED traumatizing!
You turn up for work in a skirt on dress down Friday and you get comments, points and stares. - after a month of Fridays and it is a none issue.
I do agree with what you’re saying though! Wear something that is appropriate for your weight and age. But in saying that, most offices would be traumatized no matter what you wore.

Jon

[PatJ]

Jon said, "... most offices would be traumatized no matter what you wore."

Good point, Jon. For years and years I did not wear a tie at work, then about five years ago, I decided to wear a tie. (Just to be different from all the other male employee's - none of which wore ties.)

I received flack (on and off) for about 3 years. When the flack died down, occasionally, I wouldn't wear a tie. You would not believe the flack that I took of people asking "What? No tie today?" and the like.

But Jon, the thing that most offices need is to develop a sense of humor. I mean, people in the office don't seem to have any sense of humor these days. Golly, when I retire (in six months or so) my office will be a humor desert.

PatJ

[crfriend]

You make a good point, Lar!!

Lar's been wearing skirts for a long time now, possibly longer than some of our younger compatriots have been alive, so he's got a good handle on what "works" and what doesn't. His statement that "fashion freedom" and a "sense of fashion" (which I interpret to mean, "what looks good") being different is dead on.

I've been experimenting with one of my wife's short minis the past couple of weekends (a black-and-pink plaid kilt-like number with lace at the hem) as practise-fodder to see if I can actually wear such a rig competently, but also to see what her reaction is -- and I haven't been able to get a cognisant answer. She thinks the rig looks "ridiculous" but cannot (or will not) tell me precisely why -- and it's the why that's important to the engineer in me. She likes my plain home-made minis, though, so I'm at a loss.

A few members on this site are the wrong side of 40, I put myself in this category.

Pardon? Which "side" is "right" and which one is "wrong"? The younger team can poke fun at the older team and make fun of them for being old fuddy-duddies; on the other hand, the older team have wisdom that they've acquired over the years that it'll take the younger set a long time to learn and the older set can joke about how the youngsters "just don't get it".

Offices NEED traumatizing!

Not when the boss class has an aggregate IQ of about a hundred and five they don't need to be! That's suicide. That's also why I keep my skirting out of the office; narrow minds have a habit of staying narrow and are prone to breakage when one tries to pry them open.

[ChrisM]

I wore a long black skirt to the corporate christmas party last night. About 900 attendees. Women dressed in a stunning array of gorgeous gowns. Men all dressed in black penguin suits.

I wore a below-the-knee black wool pleated skirt, with a line of buttons down the right side. Pleated all the way 'round.

Most people took it for a kilt, including asking where my sporran was, and so forth. But nobody, not even the big VP, nor my local vice president, so much as implied that it was out of order. I was pleasantly surprised. I had expected a bit more conservatism from this room full of defense contractors.

Shake up the office!

Chris

[binx]

I've been experimenting with one of my wife's short minis the past couple of weekends (a black-and-pink plaid kilt-like number with lace at the hem) as practise-fodder to see if I can actually wear such a rig competently, but also to see what her reaction is -- and I haven't been able to get a cognisant answer. She thinks the rig looks "ridiculous" but cannot (or will not) tell me precisely why -- and it's the why that's important to the engineer in me. She likes my plain home-made minis, though, so I'm at a loss.

Sounds like a posting a pic is in order!

I've worn Sportkilts, Amerikilts, and UKs to work part-time for a year now, and the UKs get the skirt comment the most, which is great, in that I'm accepted as wearing a skirt. I think it's because of the lack of a sporran. I've stopped defending it as a kilt, and started using "men's skirt". I am thinking of wearing a red Spartan UK with green shirt to the lunchtime holiday at-work get-together to push the boundaries.

binx

[skirttron]

Yes, I have, with colleagues, outside working hours at least, gone as far as wearing a non-traditional kilt plus trainers and a little jewellery, without negative comment. After about 10 minutes, everyone seemed to forget about it - great, and I feel so much more relaxed and affable in a skirt or kilt than trousers.
The only people who really mumble much about it when you mention you might wear a kilt are falsetto-macho old bachelors who think their heterosexuality needs reconfirming.

[Charlie]

Yes, I have, with colleagues, outside working hours at least, gone as far as wearing a non-traditional kilt plus trainers and a little jewellery, without negative comment. After about 10 minutes, everyone seemed to forget about it - great, and I feel so much more relaxed and affable in a skirt or kilt than trousers.

Same here, but without the jewellery - I don't wear any except for a wristwatch. The occasion was a departmental skittles match. Apart from feeling more relaxed, I did it to squash a possible rumour that I wore skirts (as a TV) - a female colleague mentioned that I was regarded by some at work as 'eccentric'. I felt rather pleased

Charlie

[Krapsparov]

Pardon? Which "side" is "right" and which one is "wrong"? The younger team can poke fun at the older team and make fun of them for being old fuddy-duddies; on the other hand, the older team have wisdom that they've acquired over the years that it'll take the younger set a long time to learn and the older set can joke about how the youngsters "just don't get it"

The wrong side of 40 is the side that makes you ache in the morning. The side that makes your eyes blind when you like to read.
The wrong side of 40 is when you can't play sports with your children like you used to. It's the side that robs your confidence on late nights on un-lit roads.
But for me, its when you look at yourself in the mirror and realise you look stupid wearing a skirt that is too short for a 15 year girl!!

This is what I was talking about - as well you know.

Jon

[crfriend]

The wrong side of 40 is [...] The side that makes your eyes blind when you like to read.

Ah-ha! That explains why I have to reach for the magnifier now when I try to read a grey part number on a black IC. And for backplane wire-wrapping. Hmm...

The wrong side of 40 [...] is the side that robs your confidence on late nights on un-lit roads.

Thankfully I'm still OK on that count. I need to be; I leave home in the dark this time of year and get home in the dark.

But for me, its when you look at yourself in the mirror and realise you look stupid wearing a skirt that is too short for a 15 year girl!!

Dang. I'm wearing one of those now! It's rather comfy, too; it's just not something I'd wear out to dinner.

This is what I was talking about - as well you know.

My thrust was that you take away from it what you put into it. There is no "wrong" side, and the number fourty has no special meaning outside those who wield it.

[Bravehearts.us]

Jon said, "... most offices would be traumatized no matter what you wore."

Good point, Jon. For years and years I did not wear a tie at work, then about five years ago, I decided to wear a tie. (Just to be different from all the other male employee's - none of which wore ties.)

I received flack (on and off) for about 3 years. When the flack died down, occasionally, I wouldn't wear a tie. You would not believe the flack that I took of people asking "What? No tie today?" and the like.

But Jon, the thing that most offices need is to develop a sense of humor. I mean, people in the office don't seem to have any sense of humor these days. Golly, when I retire (in six months or so) my office will be a humor desert.

PatJ

Yes, for god’s sake…a sense of humor! I don’t know what happened in our office but the anti-smile demon must have been terrorizing employees during their off hours. I get the feeling that people think that if someone smiled around there they would get fired. HO HO HO

[ChristopherJ]

But for me, its when you look at yourself in the mirror and realise you look stupid wearing a skirt that is too short for a 15 year girl!!

Any man would look stupid in such a short skirt - no matter how old or young he was.

I must say, it came a huge shock to me that such a thing as MICRO skirts even existed. I didn't know (I have no children). But while browsing eBay to look for mini skirts for myself, I have found mini skirts that are only 5 inches in length! e.g. http://stores.ebay.co.uk/FASHION-APOCALYPSE

Now that's crazy. No guy could wear a skirt that short. Although I must admit to having one that measure 7.5 inches! Haven't worn it yet though. Don't think I ever will. I didn't appreciate how small it was until it was delivered. :rolleyes:

But I look alright in a "normal" mini skirt. I haven't been able to create a photo gallery on this forum (don't know why - I'd appreciate advice on that) - but here's a photo that I took yesterday - in a black mini skirt.

http://tinyurl.com/yc2fpd

I think that I look OK - and that's what matters. I'm 55 and don't think that age matters much when it comes to wearing any form of skirt. Body size might make a difference though - as I think short skirts suit slim people while knee-length skirts suit people of medium to heavy build.

[Bravehearts.us]

Lar's been wearing skirts for a long time now, possibly longer than some of our younger compatriots have been alive, so he's got a good handle on what "works" and what doesn't. His statement that "fashion freedom" and a "sense of fashion" (which I interpret to mean, "what looks good") being different is dead on.

I've been experimenting with one of my wife's short minis the past couple of weekends (a black-and-pink plaid kilt-like number with lace at the hem) as practise-fodder to see if I can actually wear such a rig competently, but also to see what her reaction is -- and I haven't been able to get a cognisant answer. She thinks the rig looks "ridiculous" but cannot (or will not) tell me precisely why -- and it's the why that's important to the engineer in me. She likes my plain home-made minis, though, so I'm at a loss.



Pardon? Which "side" is "right" and which one is "wrong"? The younger team can poke fun at the older team and make fun of them for being old fuddy-duddies; on the other hand, the older team have wisdom that they've acquired over the years that it'll take the younger set a long time to learn and the older set can joke about how the youngsters "just don't get it".



Not when the boss class has an aggregate IQ of about a hundred and five they don't need to be! That's suicide. That's also why I keep my skirting out of the office; narrow minds have a habit of staying narrow and are prone to breakage when one tries to pry them open.

What I meant by Fashion sense was more along the lines of what doesn’t look obviously like hell. Everyone has a difference idea of what appeals to them and looks good and we’ll disagree on it but some things that people pick out to wear look so ridiculous that you wonder what that person was thinking when they looked in the mirror or IF they looked in the mirror.

The olds farts like me can learn from the fresh ideas of the young and the young can take a lesson from the wisdom of the old. The young guy who gets that and puts it into practice is the wise one. I wasn’t one of those young guys. That’s when they still made tires out of stones, as one of my daughters says. LOL

“And it’s the WHY that…”
So that’s what makes and engineer. I must be one because that’s my favorite word. At work it’s my coworkers least favorite since I started there. When they see me coming down the hall they see a big question mark on my forehead and they turn around and head in the opposite direction.

[Bravehearts.us]

Any man would look stupid in such a short skirt - no matter how old or young he was.

I must say, it came a huge shock to me that such a thing as MICRO skirts even existed. I didn't know (I have no children). But while browsing eBay to look for mini skirts for myself, I have found mini skirts that are only 5 inches in length! e.g. http://stores.ebay.co.uk/FASHION-APOCALYPSE

Now that's crazy. No guy could wear a skirt that short. Although I must admit to having one that measure 7.5 inches! Haven't worn it yet though. Don't think I ever will. I didn't appreciate how small it was until it was delivered. :rolleyes:

But I look alright in a "normal" mini skirt. I haven't been able to create a photo gallery on this forum (don't know why - I'd appreciate advice on that) - but here's a photo that I took yesterday - in a black mini skirt.

http://tinyurl.com/yc2fpd

I think that I look OK - and that's what matters. I'm 55 and don't think that age matters much when it comes to wearing any form of skirt. Body size might make a difference though - as I think short skirts suit slim people while knee-length skirts suit people of medium to heavy build.

Geez, I have belts that are wider then those micro minis. You’re right; guys couldn’t wear them but to tell you the truth neither can the women.

"Any man would look stupid in such a short skirt - no matter how old or young he was." http://tinyurl.com/yc2fpd
My sentiments exactly.

[AndrewH]

I think short skirts suit slim people while knee-length skirts suit people of medium to heavy build.

My rule of thumb for myself is that, if the skirt is laid flat, it should be longer than it is wide!

Of course, those of you who are slender and younger may get away with a different rule!