Skirt Cafe is an on-line community dedicated to exploring, promoting and advocating skirts and kilts as a fashion choice for men, formerly known as men in skirts. We do this in the context of men's fashion freedom --- an expansion of choices beyond those commonly available for men to include kilts, skirts and other garments. We recognize a diversity of styles our members feel comfortable wearing, and do not exclude any potential choices. Continuing dialog on gender is encouraged in the context of fashion freedom for men. See here for more details.
Fashion student Katie Cooper, wouldn't be the first fashion designer, when asked to produce a men's fashion collection, threw in a skirt or two to make something boring have some edge and interest. Even then, one skirt and two trousers, that have a skirt look to them, is hardly taking a full grasp of male skirts.
If you want publicity in you fashion collection then put a man in a skirt, job done, new uniform, man in skirt, front page wonder.
The "rules" for menswear have and always will, be decided by society and social pressure.
Fortunately, there will always be the upstarts and rebels who take delight in breaking them.
Steve.
I don't know what others think but I don't want some fancy fashion creation. All I want is a simple, uncomplicated garment as an alternative to trousers - like most women would buy from a store to wear every day or for work. Straight, A-line or pleated, solid colours or simple patterns etc, and preferably robust rather than flimsy (which is why I like denim, corduroy, heavy cotton or suiting material) or so they maintain masculinity and work well with any shirt or sweater. I want to be able to obtain these from my local clothing store or supermarket without spending a small fortune.
If we insist that skirts maintain "masculinity" then we will not ever free men from the ManBox. All that we will accomplish is adding more rules to the ManBox to keep men imprisoned. We don't need masculine men's skirts in al rugged utilitarian design. We need de-gendering of all skits. It is the only way out of the ManBox. We need to remember that not all men are "masculine" and therefore they don't all subscribe to that look.
jamie001 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 26, 2025 3:50 pm
We don't need masculine men's skirts in al rugged utilitarian design. We need de-gendering of all skits. It is the only way out of the ManBox. We need to remember that not all men are "masculine" and therefore they don't all subscribe to that look.
You might not want to be in the "masculine box" or need masculine skirts, but I do. If youn want feminine skirts, go to the women's section where you will be spoiled for choice.
jamie001 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 26, 2025 3:50 pm
If we insist that skirts maintain "masculinity" then we will not ever free men from the ManBox. All that we will accomplish is adding more rules to the ManBox to keep men imprisoned. We don't need masculine men's skirts in al rugged utilitarian design. We need de-gendering of all skits. It is the only way out of the ManBox. We need to remember that not all men are "masculine" and therefore they don't all subscribe to that look.
I think Jamie we first have define masculine. At the moment it is being defined for us. "You need to" etc. I say that I decide what masculinity means to me. After all I am a man. Which puts me a right place to decide.
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Soft frilly skirt, white tights, heels and long curly hair?
Define your own masculinity.
When people say that was then. It just means they refuse to give up their own vision of a man and demand you conform.
So head over to the over side and wear what you want.
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Barleymower wrote: ↑Sun Oct 26, 2025 5:03 pm
say that I decide what masculinity means to me. After all I am a man. Which puts me a right place to decide.
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Barleymower wrote: ↑Sun Oct 26, 2025 5:03 pm
Soft frilly skirt, white tights, heels and long curly hair?
Define your own masculinity.
When people say that was then. It just means they refuse to give up their own vision of a man and demand you conform.
I only have one objection to this - that style was acceptable for male nobility at the time - women had their own style which was distinctive. And the French Revolution / Great Male Renunciation threw all of that "style" away for "drab working man's" clothes. But for that era that style of clothing for male nobility/aristocracy was considered normal.
If you are simply saying that frilly styles don't define masculinity - yes - they don't/shouldn't. Today they carry a heavy meaning whether we like it or not... but we should be allow to define them for ourselves and what they mean to us.
jamie001 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 26, 2025 3:50 pm
We don't need masculine men's skirts in a rugged utilitarian design. We need de-gendering of all skits. It is the only way out of the ManBox.
I think both are valuable. I spend much of my day working in a vegetable garden. When it's cool enough to wear clothes, I want them to be rugged, with good pockets. The light, pretty skirts are nice too, but in the right setting.