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Getting to the punch line of a long joke quickly....The guy who had crossed the desert for several days and was dying of thirst eventually crawled up the steps of this amazing hotel that wasn't a mirage, only to be turned away, because he wasn't wearing a tie!
It's the only way to go, guys!
Tom
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Nice look there Kirbstone, only thing I don't like is the tie tucked into the belt. I wear ties a lot of the time at work, in my last job my boss always wore golf shirts and a lot of the time clients would walk passed him and come to me thinking I was the man in charge
MrNaturalAZ wrote:I don't think I've ever seen anyone tuck in a necktie before. It does seem to emphasize the phallic symbolism that a tie already holds, though.
I've got a few that I have to tuck in, but usually it doesn't show as that's going on under the cover of a waistcoat. When I pull out the stops, a lot of them get pulled. And, yes, a too-long tie that would show from under the waistcoat will invariably get tucked into the waistband of the skirt I'm wearing. Not doing so looks rather daft.
Retrocomputing -- It's not just a job, it's an adventure!
Good looking kilt and similar to mine only mine is a bit longer ( knee length ). I'll try and get a photo of me in it. Now that's one photo that I think that MOH would find acceptable.
Dnns
I believe in offering every assistance short of actual help but then mainly just want to be left to be myself in all my difference and uniqueness.
crfriend wrote:
I've got a few that I have to tuck in, but usually it doesn't show as that's going on under the cover of a waistcoat. When I pull out the stops, a lot of them get pulled. And, yes, a too-long tie that would show from under the waistcoat will invariably get tucked into the waistband of the skirt I'm wearing. Not doing so looks rather daft.
If I recall correctly from eons ago when I had a job (computer field service) that required a necktie, My solution to a "too long" tie was to take an extra turn around the knot to take up the difference. Made for a fatter knot, but, IMO, was preferable to a tie that extended below the beltline (tucked in or not).
No shirt, no shoes, no pants, no gods. No worries!
MrNaturalAZ wrote:If I recall correctly from eons ago when I had a job (computer field service) that required a necktie, My solution to a "too long" tie was to take an extra turn around the knot to take up the difference. Made for a fatter knot, but, IMO, was preferable to a tie that extended below the beltline (tucked in or not).
Ah ha! A "kindred spirit"! I did field service for most of the 1980s and had a great time at it. I gave it up when the machines started telling me what to do and ability to use an o'scope was no longer appreciated -- or even understood.
Ties at the time were "optional", but encouraged. This usually meant that they got tucked into the top button-gaps in the shirt almost immediately, however, as some of the devices in use were positively filthy to work on (e.g. electrostatic plotters).
Retrocomputing -- It's not just a job, it's an adventure!
Just unpacked my bespoke grey & tartan A-line pleated skirt with matching tie. Attached is a first 'selfie' in a mirror not using flash, hence the shake and surgery on the upper torso & head, but as a sop to the 'non-tuck' tie wearing set, I've left the tie 'out'.
Better pics on the way, of course.
Tom
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An impressive combination Tom. But when will you wear it given Mrs K's famous opposition to you being skirted?
Just curious,
Ian.
Do not argue with idiots; they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Cogito ergo sum - Descartes
Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum - Ambrose Bierce
rick401r wrote:If anyone needs a tie I have about hundred hanging in my closet.
I do too, was thinking about sewing them all together edge to edge and turning them into skirts. Gotta get the color and pattern mix just right though. Should be an interesting project, as there is sufficient material there for a decent length skirt.
Taj wrote:Ties are symbolic. That is their functionality. Do I like them or the custom that requires them. Yes and no. A tie is a symbol of respect for the business or social situation one is attending to. I may not have a lot of respect for some individuals in some situations I may encounter, but I can communicate respect for the process by dressing appropriately. It is important to me to present myself in the best light possible.
I believe I once posted about string/bolo ties. We can use more options.
There is a seam on the narrow part of the tie and if you start the first crossover at this point then in theory the wide end of the tie should end up just at the belt line meaning that tucking the tie in should be unnecessary. The tie is designed this way. Of course we don't all have the same torso length and the tie is designed for the average so there may have to be a bit of adjustment to achieve the ending at the belt line. I know that sometimes I have to have a second try when it doesn't end up right first time. At least that's what I was taught. I do sometimes like to wear a tie especially in a formal situation. I have also experimented and a jacket, shirt and tie can look just as good with a skirt as with trousers. I have several combinations that I would be not only comfortable to wear but feel smart and confident.
I believe in offering every assistance short of actual help but then mainly just want to be left to be myself in all my difference and uniqueness.
Milfmog wrote:An impressive combination Tom. But when will you wear it given Mrs K's famous opposition to you being skirted?
Just curious,
Ian.
Good point, Ian. Real question is when can I wear ANY skirt? My Mary is head of the dress-code police round here and she has binned throughout our 45-year liaison a great many clothing items she finds don't meet with her approval, not just skirts. For example I bought a nice little beige trilby hat recently which has disappeared!
I only get to go skirted when she's not here and that's the truth of it. I don't go parading through shopping malls or on public transport here in this small community so attired as I'm frankly not brave enough and don't fancy parrying comments from strangers at this time of my life, so skirting must remain a quirky private 'hobby' for me.
Tom,
That was an amazingly brave and candid reply.
I think that some of the stuff written here sometimes glosses over or omits the realities of actual life as a guy in a skirt.
I'm not saying lies, but in this day and age we seem programmed to only report the so called positive aspects.
I've said before that we all compromise to some degrees but you seem to have achieved a compact which is to be admired.
I can only wish that your "hobby" will continue to make you happy for many a year to come.
Now a very slight downer, lose the tartan tie. I'd suggest a plain grey to match the body of the skirt. The skirt itself is quite awesome.
I've got a cobbled together photo of a denim/tartan combi which I may yet see made up.
Steve.
Tom, you've said before that your Mrs disposes of any skirt of yours that she finds. I didn't realise this policing extended to hats (and more) as well. Have you ever discussed with her the matter of her throwing your property away?