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It seems to finally make sense

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 9:13 pm
by moonshadow
Despite years and years of countless people trying to normalize skirts for men, it just will not gain traction, and I think I finally understand why.

Re: It seems to finally make sense

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:58 pm
by timemeddler
moonshadow wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 9:13 pm Despite years and years of countless people trying to normalize skirts for men, it just will not gain traction, and I think I finally understand why.
"oh?"

Re: It seems to finally make sense

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 11:12 pm
by Ozdelights
moonshadow wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 9:13 pm Despite years and years of countless people trying to normalize skirts for men, it just will not gain traction, and I think I finally understand why.
Hi Moon, that's going to make us ask for more explanation. I hope it's all good.

Barry

Re: It seems to finally make sense

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:43 am
by Fred in Skirts
OK MOON,
WHY!!!

Re: It seems to finally make sense

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 3:54 am
by Mouse
Moon, I had a similar thought on a building site the other day, talking to a female painter dressed as all the other guys on site in tough trousers!

Re: It seems to finally make sense

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 6:23 am
by Coder
moonshadow wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 9:13 pm Despite years and years of countless people trying to normalize skirts for men, it just will not gain traction, and I think I finally understand why.
Do you want us to guess? My feeling is that not enough of us are bold enough to create a movement. Alternatively, it seems fashion has dramatically changed when there was a political or socioeconomic reason for that change... for men to adopt skirts I can't think of one driving force behind that movement.

Re: It seems to finally make sense

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:59 am
by Barleymower
moonshadow wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 9:13 pm Despite years and years of countless people trying to normalize skirts for men, it just will not gain traction, and I think I finally understand why.
Mouse wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 3:54 am Moon, I had a similar thought on a building site the other day, talking to a female painter dressed as all the other guys on site in tough trousers!
In the spirit of open debate, can you let the group know.

Re: It seems to finally make sense

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:02 am
by robehickman
Mouse wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 3:54 am Moon, I had a similar thought on a building site the other day, talking to a female painter dressed as all the other guys on site in tough trousers!
Within that context and doing that work, such clothing is entirely sensible.
Coder wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 6:23 am
moonshadow wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 9:13 pm Despite years and years of countless people trying to normalize skirts for men, it just will not gain traction, and I think I finally understand why.
Do you want us to guess? My feeling is that not enough of us are bold enough to create a movement. Alternatively, it seems fashion has dramatically changed when there was a political or socioeconomic reason for that change... for men to adopt skirts I can't think of one driving force behind that movement.
There are very good reasons in niche cases like for folk dance as I have noted many times already, and probably others besides that. Promote skirts in cases where skirts actually make sense, because the fact that women have mostly dropped them says to me that they are a garment with limited practical application.

Re: It seems to finally make sense

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:15 am
by denimini
I am so pleased that finally something has made sense.

Re: It seems to finally make sense

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:42 am
by STEVIE
Hi Moon,
Personally, share if and when you wish.
The main thing is your sense, no one else's.
Steve.

Re: It seems to finally make sense

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:36 pm
by Mouse
robehickman wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:02 am
Mouse wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 3:54 am Moon, I had a similar thought on a building site the other day, talking to a female painter dressed as all the other guys on site in tough trousers!
Within that context and doing that work, such clothing is entirely sensible.
Well there was me in my Roman black denim work skirt and thinking that, as you say, she had totally chosen correctly and I was the crazy one. Yes I know that is not news, but even so I found it interesting. For context, a UK building site is, for a lot of sites, male only. The normal few females present on a building site, from time to time, are interior designers and clients walking around in normal clothes. So a lady painter, working on site is not usual, but very welcome.

I have no idea and do not profess to know what Moon has found to understand, but this is my check moment of the week.

Re: It seems to finally make sense

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 4:41 pm
by moonshadow
denimini wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:15 am I am so pleased that finally something has made sense.
Ah yes, there are many questions, anomalies, and circumstances in life that seem to have the same common denominator.
Barleymower wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:59 am In the spirit of open debate, can you let the group know.
Much like simply looking up the answer in a text book, it only provides an answer, but not an understanding of the true nature of the question, by posing the question in the form of vagueness and riddles, the seeker is required to go on a mental journey, and it is this journey in which true understanding of the question is achieved, and only in an understanding of the question, can the answer also be truly understood. Otherwise, it's just something you'd slap on a bumper sticker and not give a second thought to, and the answer... is so much more than that.

This same answer applies to many other questions, some that humanity has wrestled with for the entire history of civilization, others that people are currently scratching their heads over. The answer appears cynical and dark, but it's really not so, I just points out a limitation of the human brain, in other words, "it is what it is".

Re: It seems to finally make sense

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:51 am
by FranTastic444
Mouse wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:36 pm For context, a UK building site is, for a lot of sites, male only.
Don’t know what it is like in the rest of the US, but in downtown Boston, female construction workers are a pretty common site on office block builds and conversions. They are dressed the same way as their male counterparts and, from what I can tell, are doing the same sort of manual, heavy, dirty work.

Re: It seems to finally make sense

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:29 am
by Grok
robehickman wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:02 am
There are very good reasons in niche cases like for folk dance as I have noted many times already, and probably others besides that. Promote skirts in cases where skirts actually make sense, because the fact that women have mostly dropped them says to me that they are a garment with limited practical application.
Skirts have a very few practical niche applications. Basically, for a few outdoor activity and/or athletic uses.

Re: It seems to finally make sense

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:52 am
by Uncle Al
Grok wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:29 amSkirts have a very few practical niche applications.
Basically, for a few outdoor activity and/or athletic uses.
Skirts are great when sitting at a work bench, fiddling with small parts.
If or when you drop one, it is caught by your skirt - not the floor :D

Uncle Al
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