Sightings "in the wild"

[crfriend]

This story goes back probably two decades, I was twenty then wow time flies.

I can verify how time flies -- the first sighting I recall was back in the mid 1980s in the Boston subway system of a guy of about my age (mid 20s) in a very long white skirt sitting across the train from me. This was unmistakable -- and it piqued my curiosity.

Instead of risking all and indulging that curiosity at the time, I took the safe way out and shoved it into a recessed corner of my psyche where it later popped out, along with the memory, when I was in my 40s; now that I'm in my mid-50s, the overt threat to my existence for having the stones to be different is gone, things are better and I'm able to pursue the style I like.

Things can be rough for the younger crowd. A negative judgement at that age can doggedly stick with one for years and potentially derail careers if the judgement is bad enough and incompetently-applied enough. It does get easier with age.

So, there's a memory from three decades back. Can anybody else deepen the time-well?

[crfriend]

Last Friday in Calgary, I ran into a fellow at "the Market" on McLeod Trail who was wearing a 5.11 Tactical Kilt [...]

I have wanted one of those since they first appeared as an April-fool joke on the website and attracted enough attention that the firm actually produced a run of them. It was popular enough that they did another run the year after. I guess it's a staple now, as they show up full-time now, which is a good thing. I still want one.

[Caultron]

Last Friday in Calgary, I ran into a fellow at "the Market" on McLeod Trail who was wearing a 5.11 Tactical Kilt [...]

I have wanted one of those since they first appeared as an April-fool joke on the website and attracted enough attention that the firm actually produced a run of them. It was popular enough that they did another run the year after. I guess it's a staple now, as they show up full-time now, which is a good thing. I still want one.

Just do it. I have five and wear them regularly for hiking and they're great.

Only one thing: order your normal pants size and not your normal kilt size. I wear (on rare occasions) size 36 pants and (much more often) a size 38 kilt, but for 5.11 kilts I have to order a size 36.

I bought two size 38's on my first order and ended up paying a local tailor $20 a pop to have them taken in.

[Kilty]

Was seeing friends in North London and saw a guy in a denim pencil skirt, knee length, with a Hello Kitty top, happily walking down Tottenham High Road (no comments from passers by) so it shows the fear is from within. Confirms the world doesn't care if you wear a skirt instead of shorts

[crfriend]

Was seeing friends in North London and saw a guy in a denim pencil skirt, knee length, with a Hello Kitty top, happily walking down Tottenham High Road (no comments from passers by) so it shows the fear is from within. Confirms the world doesn't care if you wear a skirt instead of shorts

I rather suspect it'd have been the Hello Kitty top rather than the denim skirt that would have attracted attention. Denim in this day and age amounts to "visual noise" and is likely not even really perceived as anything if even seen at all.

[renesm1]

Last Friday in Calgary, I ran into a fellow at "the Market" on McLeod Trail who was wearing a 5.11 Tactical Kilt [...]

I have wanted one of those since they first appeared as an April-fool joke on the website and attracted enough attention that the firm actually produced a run of them. It was popular enough that they did another run the year after. I guess it's a staple now, as they show up full-time now, which is a good thing. I still want one.

Just do it. I have five and wear them regularly for hiking and they're great.

Only one thing: order your normal pants size and not your normal kilt size. I wear (on rare occasions) size 36 pants and (much more often) a size 38 kilt, but for 5.11 kilts I have to order a size 36.

I bought two size 38's on my first order and ended up paying a local tailor $20 a pop to have them taken in.

Quick question: Does the 5.11 kilt give a little after wearing a few times? I usually by a 36-inch waist for shorts from H&M and find that after the second wearing it goes from too tight to just right! What's you experience with multiple wearings of the kilt?

[Caultron]

...Quick question: Does the 5.11 kilt give a little after wearing a few times? I usually by a 36-inch waist for shorts from H&M and find that after the second wearing it goes from too tight to just right! What's you experience with multiple wearings of the kilt?

The fabric is mostly polyester and doesn't stretch out after washing and wearing.

[r.m.anderson]

The best results are experienced with a Velcro waist closing with elastic panel (think Sport Kilt design).
With kilts with small belt/buckles the adjustment can be down to an inch (the distance between the holes).
Having the addition of a accessory belt to snug everything very tight helps.
One could use braces (suspenders) but ugh how unsightly and with the weight of some kilts these braces
will need to need to be made out of woven steel "London Kilts falling down" LOL !
Have a light weight kilt and a new term for kilted wear would be kite wear - make sure your kilt pin is a
block of lead ! Some utilkilts have pockets that would at least mitigate the flight experience but then
going to a spa for exercise would be a mute issue carrying all that extra weight around !
Use care around bodies of water - trying to swim with more kilt can be hazardous !
Safe to note that wearing utilkilts can help prevent the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune from nicking
and scraping the concerns beneath the apron. They don't call some kilts "TANKS" for no reason !

[skirtyscot]

It's a little disappointing how few posts in this thread are on topic. Thread drift etc etc, I know, but every time I see the little "new post" icon my hopes are raised - hopes that skirted men are becoming less rare. Then, more often than not, the new post is about something else, and my hopes are dashed. You cruel, cruel BRUTES!



So here, to redress the balance just a little, is my latest SITW, in Lisbon last month. We had just arrived and checked into our flat and had gone shopping in a local grocery. At first Hazel and I were the only customers in the shop, but after a few moments another couple arrived, she in ... something evidently forgettable ... and he in a long skirt. It looked for all the world like a tablecloth with tassels at the hem, and he must have been BOILING in it, even though it was evening and the heat of the day had faded somewhat. He also had what I can only describe as a white man's feeble attempt at dreadlocks, not a good look IMHO. Anyhow, they were as foreign as us, 'cause they were speaking English in English accents. So did I take the chance to speak to my kindred spirit, my fellow skirtsman? Did I hell! H would not have appreciated that one little bit, as it would have drawn attention to my attire - a miniskirt which I was quite surprised she was tolerating at all, given the remarks she had made about it. And as she is very hard of hearing, she would have been unable to join in the conversation even if she had wanted to, so she'd have been standing there like a Muslim wife at a political convention!

[r.m.anderson]

So when you see a bloke in a skirt or something odd - do you look around for that "CANDID CAMERA" ?
Is this some sort of trap set-up for the unwary to be in for a video surprise revealing more of himself ?

Years ago there was a production (TV) to be viewed by ADULTS ONLY - Alan Funts Candid Camera production
of "WHAT DO YOU SAY TO A NAKED LADY" ? Views in common life where a nude woman would appear
and shock the heck out of the folk around - male and female i.e. riding an elevator (lift) walking on a
city street and going around a corner to the exposing sight - entering an office setting and a variety of
other scenes. And the biggest surprise as the surprised folk are shown on video camera replay their
reaction - some amusing and others shock and awe !

Now where was I being distracted - but try this with a naked man and oh my gosh the mighty Christian
Roman Empire would fall on its knees - but at least modern day Olympics are done while clothed but
there ain't much with the women's beach volleyball - they won't be taking much sand souvenirs to the
locker room and medal podiums !

[Sinned]

So you're seeming to imply that it's much more acceptable to see a naked lady around the streets and all than a naked man. Well I guess that you're right in that. A naked woman would at worst get a mild telling off and be told to cover it but a naked man is likely as not be cuffed a dragged off to the cells and classed as a pervert. Another case of the double standards and unfairness. OTOH women can go about naked as much as they like for me. I can have double standards as well.

And as for thread drift, I have come to accept that as just part of an extended conversation. After all in how many conversations you take part in does the topic sat on line. I'm well known for discussing something then going back to something discussed half an hour ago then reconvening where we left off without missing a beat.

[moonshadow]

A naked woman would at worst get a mild telling off and be told to cover it but a naked man is likely as not be cuffed a dragged off to the cells and classed as a pervert. Another case of the double standards and unfairness.

I don't know how a woman not wearing anything below the equator would be handled. I know public nudity is pretty well banned in most area's of the U.S. that I'm aware of. That applies to both men and women. Granted, society itself (the public) may be less bothered by a nude woman than a nude man. I think it also has to do with how attractive the person in question is. It seems, that in our society many people like to think that ugly people don't deserve the same vanity rights that attractive people have. I've heard people express prejudice towards women who may not be as ascetically pleasing as others. They are shamed into keeping themselves covered.

Generally, most women like to see a nude man... if he's attractive.
Most men like to see a nude woman... if she's attractive.

Lets face it... life is easier when you're pretty. (or handsome if you're a guy).

As far as double standards go, with regards to not wearing clothing, the only double standard I'm aware of state side is the one that states that women can't go around topless in public but men can. This is an offense that can get a woman in actual legal trouble. Where as as much as I rant about clothing double standards against men wearing garments like skirts and dresses... it is still totally legal, and while we may have our various dramas for engaging in the practice, we won't get hauled off to jail or fined. The same is not true for a woman, and that needs to change.

Anyway, back on topic, I forgot to mention yesterday while I was biking on the Creeper Trail, I passed a hiker wearing a skirt. An actual skirt, not a kilt. It was about three or four inches above the knees, looked to be a thin fabric, and had a pattern to it.

[hoborob]

Oh no the MoonShadow virus has escaped. We need to quarantine the entire Southwestern part of VA and the Northeastern part of TN. Don't travel there or you might find yourself wanting to hike the Virginia Creeper trail in a skirt. You have been warned.

[moonshadow]

Oh no the MoonShadow virus has escaped. We need to quarantine the entire Southwestern part of VA and the Northeastern part of TN. Don't travel there or you might find yourself wanting to hike the Virginia Creeper trail in a skirt. You have been warned.

Actually... although I'd LOVE to take credit for ending trouser tyranny in rural Virginia, I'm afraid I'm simply a cog in a much bigger wheel... for I myself got the idea and encouragement to don my first skirt by observing hikers in Damascus pass through throughout the summer in their skirts and dresses.

'Fraid I'm just another "Johnny come lately"....

[Gordon]

Actually it is legal in some places for a woman to be topless;

http://time.com/3834365/map-topless-laws/
"The vast majority of states actually have laws on the books making clear that women can’t be arrested under state law solely for being topless in settings where it’s OK for men. But many local ordinances ban the practice anyway."

"In in New York City, where it’s technically allowed, police officers have needed reminders that they cannot arrest women simply for going shirtless in locations where it would be permissible for men to do the same, the New York Times reports. "

And then there is http://gotopless.org

Free the nipples!