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Re: Skirts in Schools - No hope for boys

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 7:35 pm
by Stu
When we are talking about children, the company which seems to mean it when they say everything is gender neutral is the US firm primary.com. Some of their dresses and skirts are modeled by children who are boys.

Re: Skirts in Schools - No hope for boys

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:09 am
by STEVIE
Stu wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2024 7:35 pm When we are talking about children, the company which seems to mean it when they say everything is gender neutral is the US firm primary.com. Some of their dresses and skirts are modelled by children who are boys.
Certainly a start Stu, but there is this retail/chicken egg question.
Primary are certainly dipping their toes in the water and may do well from it, time will tell.
However, I honestly don't believe retailers drive overall demand.
In childrenswear, the buyers are the parents, the drive is from the kid to mom/dad to retailer.
I don't imagine too many parents offer the choice of a skirt to little Johnny without a highly specific set of reasons.
As for the schoolyard bullies, marketing boyskirts is a whole different issue, impossible springs to mind.
Steve.

Re: Skirts in Schools - No hope for boys

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:20 am
by Grok
Small boys are poorly situated for defying norms. Realistically, I expect MIS in school to lag far behind MIS for adults.

Re: Skirts in Schools - No hope for boys

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 6:12 am
by Barleymower
Stu wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2024 7:35 pm When we are talking about children, the company which seems to mean it when they say everything is gender neutral is the US firm primary.com. Some of their dresses and skirts are modeled by children who are boys.
Thanks for sharing Stu. What Primary is doing is worth a cheer and brings a much needed smile to my face.
What I want doesn't really matter. I would like to see the circumstances TG people improved. Their need is greater than mine. I think if they were fully accepted, a lot of the issues there are with gender boundaries would be solved.
As for school yard bullies. They are kids, sort it out. They would quickly learn.

Re: Skirts in Schools - No hope for boys

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 6:17 am
by STEVIE
Barleymower wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 6:12 am As for school yard bullies. They are kids, sort it out. They would quickly learn.
They'll learn when the boys in skirts are not the ones to pick on!
Ouch.
Steve,

Re: Skirts in Schools - No hope for boys

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 6:29 am
by Barleymower
STEVIE wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 6:17 am
Barleymower wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 6:12 am As for school yard bullies. They are kids, sort it out. They would quickly learn.
They'll learn when the boys in skirts are not the ones to pick on!
Ouch.
Steve,
🤣 come on then!

Re: Skirts in Schools - No hope for boys

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:00 am
by Seb
I think having the uniform especially as there seems to be no shorts, might make more boys want to wear a skirt, if allowed. I quite like the idea.

In Sweden there is no dress code for kids in school, which means boys don't wear anything other than trousers or shorts, as do most girls for that matter too.

Re: Skirts in Schools - No hope for boys

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 4:40 pm
by moonshadow
Barleymower wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:04 pm What exactly are they afraid of?
Change

Re: Skirts in Schools - No hope for boys

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:42 pm
by crfriend
moonshadow wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 4:40 pm
Barleymower wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:04 pm What exactly are they afraid of?
Change
This, precisely. Nothing terrifies a reactionary any more than change. The sad thing is that in the 40 years they've held power they've transformed the world into a sad, sad parody of what it once was -- and it hasn't really furthered their aims. They're just out to burn the whole thing down.

Re: Skirts in Schools - No hope for boys

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:07 pm
by Barleymower
It's not change.
Better to say it's not just change.
My wife is supportive but also a feminist. She and many other women are fed up with men. A lot of women out there are not about to do men any favours, in their minds there are centuries of abuse to be righted.

There's a lot of virtue signalling at the moment. That is good words disguising unpleasant motives. For example the Cass report (Dr Hilary Cass) recently put a stop to NHS prescribing puberty blockers to TG kids. Saying kids were let down.
Wether or not you agree with Dr Cass women rights groups all over applauded the move. Why?

Re: Skirts in Schools - No hope for boys

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:17 pm
by jamie001
Barleymower wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:07 pm It's not change.
Better to say it's not just change.
My wife is supportive but also a feminist. She and many other women are fed up with men. A lot of women out there are not about to do men any favours, in their minds there are centuries of abuse to be righted.

There's a lot of virtue signalling at the moment. That is good words disguising unpleasant motives. For example the Cass report (Dr Hilary Cass) recently put a stop to NHS prescribing puberty blockers to TG kids. Saying kids were let down.
Wether or not you agree with Dr Cass women rights groups all over applauded the move. Why?
It really pisses me off to see our government getting involved in these medical issue. The decision regarding puberty blockers should be left to doctors, psychologists, the parents and the child. Most politicians are ignoramus boggoted lawyers that should stay the f*ck out of medical decisions.

Re: Skirts in Schools - No hope for boys

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:25 pm
by Barleymower
The government should stay out of medicine and a lot of other things besides. Schools for example. Schools are not there to give people a free education. They are there to control the population, to educate that population to be of use. No more than that. Boys in skirts at school could lead to rebellion. Can't have that.

Re: Skirts in Schools - No hope for boys

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 7:38 pm
by STEVIE
Barleymower wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:25 pm Boys in skirts at school could lead to rebellion. Can't have that.
Ah, so I was a budding subversive anarchist bolshy agitator at age 5, guess, I haven't really really changed much.
Steve.

Re: Skirts in Schools - No hope for boys

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:05 pm
by Barleymower
Absolutely Stevie, you've been fighting the fascism of clothes since you were a able to sneak dress into your bedroom.
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"We will never give in"

Re: Skirts in Schools - No hope for boys

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:15 pm
by mr seamstress
Barleymower wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:07 pm It's not change.
Better to say it's not just change.
My wife is supportive but also a feminist. She and many other women are fed up with men. A lot of women out there are not about to do men any favours, in their minds there are centuries of abuse to be righted.
Just look at what women are teaching their sons. As long they teach their sons by setting an example of not accepting and respecting men in dresses or skirts, and they learn they don't have to give respect toward women either. Women have been taught to not accept men in skirts or dresses.
Women need to teach their children by setting an example how we should accept and respect each other. We don't have that. And that is the problem. When you have a boy in dress or skirt, you can teach him better of being more respective who is different including opposite sex.
Today world women wants to be treated equal without giving full equality in return.

Any time a woman doesn't accept and respect someone that is different, she, herself is being abusive just the same when a man does the same thing. We have this cycle of abuse that keeps going around, around and around, no matter of what type of abuse. As one learns it is okay be abusive in one type means they can use another type of abuse and see nothing is wrong with it.