The Importance of Skirt Length

General discussion of skirt and kilt-based fashion for men, and stuff that goes with skirts and kilts.
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Heels over 2 cm "lift" for men, or about 4 - 5 cm for women, puts a lot of unnatural strain on hips, knees, ankles [as well as the spine, as suggested by merlin, above..] - and all the ligaments and tendons in-between...
The risks of injuries, falls and twisted ankles is greatly increased - it's one thing to use such heels for photo' op's, but just watch people trying to walk in such - especially those without much practice..
Just another stupid fashion folly - might look good, but - simply makes more work for doctors, physio's, masseurs, chiropodists and pediatrists.

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If they only made boots of similar style and fit, without the heels, or at most a one inch heel, similar to my Beatle boots. I like how the rest of the boot is, but the heel does little for me.

Though I have to argue against the stating that heels work differently for men and women, as far as posture is concerned. This is bunk. Now, if someone does not wear them correctly, or walk in them correctly they look clownish or baffonish, but, as demonstrated by some very convincing TVs, a man can walk in heels with the same effect as women, and present a quite stunning image.

I don't wear heels cause they really are awful for one's legs, back, and feet.

Actually I do, but they are no more than 1 to two inches high.
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Pythos wrote:I don't wear heels cause they really are awful for one's legs, back, and feet.
Whilst this is undoubtedly true in general, I have a back problem that is IMPROVED if I wear 2-3 inch heels.
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I myself require some heel, an inch is ideal. I've never tried more.
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Re: The Importance of Skirt Length

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[quote="JeffB1959"]Forgive me if this question has already been asked since I'm still relatively new here, but just how important is skirt length to everyone here? Just how comfortable are you going out in skirts that end at the knee or, in the case of Christopher J., going out and about in miniskirts? Yesterday, I bought this skirt from Old Navy:

[the only rule I heard on skirt lenght is. the higher the age the longer the skirt should be :?
My prefernce would be Knee lenght.
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the higher the age the longer the skirt
It's all depends "how good" your legs are!!!
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the only rule I heard on skirt lenght is. the higher the age the longer the skirt should be :?
That was certainly the prevailing wisdom from years gone by, but seems to be being fairly widely ignored these days. While we always hear about the "broadening" of our collective waistlines, there's a noticeable subset of the population who keep themselves really really good-looking into later years, and if that's the case, then I don't see the need to slavishly subscribe to obsolescent "rules". The notion may hold in the general sense, but I don't believe it should be a "hard and fast" mandate. This is usually couched as, "If you've got it, flaunt it."

Sadly, not everyone can pull a short-skirt look off; not all of us have the bodies for it, nor the legs. But, this, too, is part of the human experience, and is nothing to be ashamed of -- just pick what looks good and go with that. If that look is knee-length or longer to accommodate "problems", so be it; if the look a 13" mini and it works, so be that. But whatever happens, don't just "give up" and "go bland" -- everybody can look good; it's just a matter of finding the look you're after.
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JeffB1959 wrote:
JeffB1959 wrote:
BrotherTailor wrote:Hi Richard N,
I think that that skirt actually has an underpleat at the front, although the picture doesn't show it very clearly, so it would not reveal as much as you think.
Quite right. That is an underpleat and it doesn't show anything that you wouldn't want to have displayed. It's the clever way it's fashioned that makes the skirt look like a pair of shorts that intrigued me into buying it.
And here's a pic of yours truly wearing said skirt so everyone can see what it's like.
Hey that's a real nice skirt there! I also have skirts with the same sort of pleats, mostly two front and two rear. Great for riding a bycicle in.

These skirts are real good jeans pants replacements.

I think that shorter skirts can be worn, but indeed, when you sit down, they ride up, so you must be aware of that, and ofcourse have boxer shorts or something well covering underneath. Pantys, especially in the winter give a totally different look, and make it easier to wear shorter skirts. Think of it like wearing a jogging pants, and wrapping a small towel around your waist. If you wearthe towel or not, you are still neatly dressed. So when wearing shorter skirts with darker pantys ( as we call them here, in Holland, it is not such a big deal. And of course, wear what lookg good on you. Wear clothing "fitting" to your person. Then you'll always be right, whatever you wear.

I was fitting shoes today, and of course I had a knee length ( Denim ) skirt on, and was aware of keeping my legs together. It's just a matter of learning how to "behave"with particular garments of clothing.

Something which is very strange, and must have come up by all of you, when swimming, you show practically everything when you wear swimming trunks, and not the baggy surfers swimming pants. And it is normally no big deal, yet we are talking about someone by chance being able by accident to look up our skirt and we are worried about that. Only worry if it looks as if you are doing it intentionally. Think twice about bending OVER in a short skirt. We men can learn a lot about how to move when wearing skirts, for the ladies. I crouch down automatically now, so that I don't unintentionally expose myself, although I always wear suitable underwear. Mostly boxers with long pipes, to preven "chaving "rubbing together of the inner thighs. When I wore pants I didn't realise they rubbed against each other.

So waer what looks good and you feel good in. and beconcious of how you move.

Can't wait for warm weather! :P :P

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I don't wear heels cause they really are awful for one's legs, back, and feet.

Actually I do, but they are no more than 1 to two inches high.
I don't wear heels per se, but do wear Scandanavian clogs (wooden sole) a lot which eliminates the pain of my Achilles tendonitis and plantar fasciitis by transferring weight from my heel to the ball of the foot. They elevate the heel about 1.5" above the ball. They also make me about 6'6" tall!

I've heard that some competitive cyclists wear high (3") heels when not training. It keeps their calf muscles compressed and working and keeps ankle tendons stretched looser in front. H'mm, shaved legs, high heels? I wonder if skirts are in their future? :)

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Re: Me in a Mini!

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JeffB1959 wrote:On the subject of skirt length, here's something interesting for everyone's perusal. While I don't think I could ever be as bold as ChristopherJ and wear something like this in public, but I just had to satisfy my curiosity and find out what I look like in a miniskirt, so here I am. The skirt I bought yesterday at a Gap outlet store for $9.99 was all of 16 inches long (yes, I measured), and it's perhaps too short on me, given how long my legs are, but you can judge that for yourselves. And before anyone gripes about my choice of footwear, after careful consideration, I arrived at what I considered the logical conclusion that high heeled boots worked better with this particular outfit than flats or (horrors) men's shoes. Again, while I don't think I could wear this skirt out in public, however, I don't rule anything out as the future is always in flux and I could change my mind and just do it. In any event, feel free to chime in with your comments.
It's a nice combination, especailly if it's worn confidently in the summer. men wear shorts in the summer, so minis like that should REALLY be NO problem. Wearing suitable shirts to go with the mini is also important to getting a desirable effect. The boots do look better than men's shoes, but I would imagine thicker heels would not only wear better, they are less of a statement and make the boots more just boots.

Other people have to learn that if someone's happy with what he wears, why react upon it? If you wear only a petticoet, and like it, you may look somewhat laaughable, but so what? Better than not doing it and being unhappy and taking it out on other people :( :P If people laugh because they see a man in a skirt, they should be thankful, laughing is healthy and always better than being miserable. If we stop thinking positively then we shouldn't wear skirts anymore.

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O by the way, I rode my bycicle to town today, in a denim knee length skirt, I had knee length socks on. and the wind blew it half way over my thighs. Not showing anything, but still nice and short, I enjoyed it. the material softly waving about over my legs. That is not flashing. Like the freedom of shorts with short pipes, but much more fun. if I thought someone was looking somewhat disturbed I would pull it down again. Quite nice clean fun. ( it was a bit fresh though, in this cold weather, but as long as I don't freeze my b.. off, I'll be wearing my skirts as long as possible. ) Haven't enjoyed myself so much in years.

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Right. In the interest of experimentation, I have spent £20 (UK pounds) on three knee-length skirts from eBay - just to see if I look OK in longer skirts.

I hate them. Maybe I have not quite got the right style, but what I have bought, I don't like. Firstly, they fit around my waist - and I am so not used to that. All of my (shorter) skirts sit on my hips - so these new skirts feel very weird. Secondly, to my mind they emphasize my height - and give me a drainpipe shape. Whereas (again, to my mind) a short skirt breaks up the drainpipe shape. Thirdly, they are so big! In volume. They feel like sails - after wearing short skirts. Fourthly - and a practical point - most of my short skirts have belt loops as they are always worn low - on the hips - so I can use a belt to hold the skirt up! These new knee length skirts don't have belt loops - as obviously they are meant to sit on top of the hips in the waisted part of the body - but I don't have a waisted part of the body!

I haven't got any photos that I can show you - as I haven't worn these new skirts out. I'll try and take some indoors tomorrow.

What I think would be alright for me would be a low slung skirt - sitting on the hips - (with belt loops) that came to 3 or 4 inches above the knee. I think I could be OK with something like that - I will just have to shop more carefully.
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It just goes to show what a diverse bunch we are here, I have all ankle length skirts, mostly with belt loops and front fly opening. I have tried mini length and have felt as uncomfortable in them as Christopher does in knee and longer. Though they were not wasted as my Daughter grabbed them with glee and she can carry the look to perfection 8) I am only 5 feet 5 inches and a little overweight, so maybe height and figure have some bearing. I'm currently bidding on a long denim overall dress (closing shortly)
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Firstly, they fit around my waist - and I am so not used to that. All of my (shorter) skirts sit on my hips - so these new skirts feel very weird.
Do these skirts have elastic waistbands or solid ones with zippers? If the former, you can probably reposition the skirt downwards a bit. (This is one of the reason I like elasticised waistbands and skirts with ties -- they're almost infinitely adjustable). If the latter, you have two options: The cheap one is to get used to the way the garment fits (i.e. "ignore the problem" ;) ) or have the garment let out a little bit (if possible; many store-bought clothes don't have very large seam allowances and that makes letting them out nigh well impossible).
Secondly, to my mind they emphasize my height - and give me a drainpipe shape. Whereas (again, to my mind) a short skirt breaks up the drainpipe shape.
Emphasizing height is not necessarily a bad thing. I don't happen to recall any of the larger images, and there's not enough detail in the avatars to tell, but are you completely slab-sided or is there some "figure" to your form. If you have a narrow (-ish) waist, you might want to work with that to bust up the worst of the drainpipe look.
Thirdly, they are so big! In volume. They feel like sails - after wearing short skirts.
You took a big step with the new skirts -- bravo for doing so -- and you're not used to the way that longer skirts work. They take some getting used to, but are fully as comfortable as shorter ones; they just feel different, and part of the fun with them, to me at least, is the way they billow and move around when I'm in motion.
Fourthly - and a practical point - most of my short skirts have belt loops as they are always worn low - on the hips - so I can use a belt to hold the skirt up!
Since you're still in "experimentation mode", and since you're not out a goodly sum of cash, why not just add belt-loops yourself? They're ridiculously easy to fashion, and would be almost as simple to install -- and, since you're doing it, you get to design every aspect.

One observation that I've made is that knee-length is by far and away the most difficult skirt length to "get right". If one misses the mark by more than a centimeter or so the look can go from stunning to dowdy. Short is easiest if one has the shape for it, and will, I suspect, be the more common mode for men if skirts for blokes catch on. Calf-length works well, too, and works on more body-types than minis do; however, like knee-length, it's possible to get a really dowdy look if one isn't careful. Very long skirts pose their own considerable challenges, not the least of which is control and management of the garment; another difficulty is getting the length just right -- again, as little as a centimeter can make or break the look (or your leg if you trip on the hem ;) ).

So, in conclusion, no length of skirt is inherently "better" than any other; they all require care and observation in selection and wearing, and I applaud ChristopherJ's excursion into previously unexplored territory. We should all do that a little more often.
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